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LookoutPoint Screen Shot 2013-02-22 at 8.00.59 PMI believe we can rule out the Lookout Point as indicated in the Glen map as posted by Reg. While Reg did not state that this Glen Lookout Point was the one where the 2 Friar photo and the Rocky/Happy photo were taken, the shear presence of a place called Lookout Point on a map raised some doubts for me.

 

As can be seen from these photos posted above, Lookout Point is a lookout solely of the Glen itself.

 

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John LaSalle confirms a structure within the Cemetery that has a similiar view of the Lake that you may observe from Lookout Point within the Glen State Park.  The only way to finally nail down the Rocky and Happy Picture is to actually visit both sites and compare views. John also recalls a bench on the upper green of the golf course.  Thanks to Reg for finding a postcard showing a bench on one of the greens at Glen Springs with view of the lake.

 

ny glen springs clock golf greenOutLookPointArrows

 

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Outlook Point will eventually drive Chad and myself bonkers.  I believe  Outlook Point could be on the Glen Springs/Padua property.  From the old photo Glen Kissingen Spring situated at the south side of the main building. As with my original photo’s the pictures are taken too close to the lake.  To get the view of the Lake from the property you would have to  back up quite a distance and move to the north while facing Lake Seneca.  I believe there was a spring possibly where our ice skating rink was situated. If the ground was level back then and the picture was such that the angle cut off the top of the main building.   Look at the original Outlook Point photo’s and the photo’s I submitted from the property.  Refer to the Glen Kissingen photo below and the 2 maps from Glen Springs trails (undated possibly early 1900’s) and the Padua Property map.

Glenn Kissingen

Photo taken from the south side Glen Kissingen Spring (Gazebo Spring) South side of building 1913, but south wing is there.

Glen Kissingen Spring

Padua_map2

Blue Arrow indicates the direction of the above photo

GS map2

Keep in mind this is higher ground then the actual building. Any point to the right of the red line is also possible.  Map of Glen Springs grounds possible early 1900’s Looks as if south wing not built yet.  Green circled area wooded.

Also keep in mind Padua opened in 1949 and gym not built until 1952.

Now for the Snafu.  Reg informs me that Nelson Rockerfeller married Happy in 1963. So that can put the actual Happy Nelson picture to the North of the property.  There are a few Mansions on Lakeview Ave North and Adjacent to the Padua Property.  Reg also informs me that the original grave site for Williamm Leffingwell was in the vacinity of the Gym so his grave would overlook the lake.  Could this be the site of the bench photo?

We may never know the answer to the actual locations of the Happy and bench photo’s.

State ParkReg found a “Point Lookout” in the State Park adjacent to the cemetery.  This is a possible view of the lake from Chad’s Common Ground photo’s the shot seems much further south from the lake then the “Rocky and Happy” and “bench photo.

Draw your own conclusion

 

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Oh yes, I just realized that there was one bit of information regarding the last two photos I posted. The caption underneath one was Cemetery Hill.

 

Also, I forgot to talk about the original 2 photos I posted on Outlook Point (Dec. 13, 18, 22). In the one with Rocky & Happy the structures have embedded rough stones. The only structure at Padua that would come close would be the old gazebo-like spring (that did not work) just south of the carport. But the structure in the Rocky photo clearly had a bona fide roof and the old spring did not.

 

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CommonGroundRevisitedA few posts back we (Tony & I) discussed the photos of Outlook Point. While I think the issue that the photos that we discussed at that that time were taken from the same vantage point (i.e., Outlook Point), it was never decided to any degree at all where this so-called Outlook Point was.

 

I came across these two photos from postcards that were for sale on Ebay. I have no details of these photos. They were taken at different times (note the smoke from the chimney blowing in different directions, and note the different cloud formations). But, they appear to be taken from the same vantage point (note the imposed red arrows I placed to indicate the relative angles of the smoke stack and the church steeple).

 

Whoever was taking these photos in this post and in previous posts had to have easy access to this vantage point. My suspicion was that this Outlook Point was not on the Padua Prep Campus but rather on the Glen Park property. If I could find a local from Watkins Glen to ask him/her, “Is there somewhere with a vantage point like this on the southeast side of Watkins Glen?”, then maybe this puzzlement could be resolved. In any event, I am open to be dissuaded on my current positioning of Outlook Point if someone could produce evidence or reasoning to the contrary.

 

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One of the more memorable winter storms of the century has just followed one of the more memorable storms in the history of the U.S.A., namely Hurricane Sandy. In New England we survived it without much to-do, simply due to luck. Obviously, Hurricane Sandy wrecked more havoc and the victims of that storm are still recovering.

 

Why am I posting this photo of the class of 1955? Indeed, why am I? To my own mind I  have not discovered the reason, but maybe someone can. I have discovered that the workings of the human mind imitates nature in all its fine details, and not vice versa. What this means for me is that time and place are more intimately connected than one would suppose simply by assuming that there is a great distance between the two.

 

There is a certain calm in the whirlwind of life. This photo (of which the only person I recognize is Valentine Lapsanski, a dear friend) portrays that calm. Nemo, recently departed, portrays the storm. They are related simply by the fact of association. Some may say that is, indeed, stretching analogy or for want of a better word, associations. But, I say, why not? The art of adaption is none other than the creative use of the most obvious and the most gracious (grace) which is given to us.

 

Having gone through the storm of Nemo I rejoice in finding Valentine smiling once again.

 

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BulletinBoardThis may be the most unappreciated or elemental part of Padua that ever existed…The Bulletin Board at the base of the central staircase.

 

Just think of it. Nothing ever happened at any point in the whole campus of Padua Prep, if it did not start at the base of that central staircase. It’s almost scary thinking about it, that such a thing could have existed in the lives of impressionable teenagers. Yet it did. Consciously or unconsciously. Maybe the nature of what Padua was way back then even demanded that this exist. Continue reading The Bulletin Board